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BD Allen's avatar

Really. It boils down to trust, which American society no longer has. Chappelle had people's trust and made all sorts of offensive jokes about everybody. It wasn't him or his routine that changed, it was the audience. We stopped trusting that jokesters were actually joking because it turns out some of them weren't.

At this point, white people jokes take too much meta-sussing to figure out if I'm actually being insulted. They're automatically not funny unless it's coming from a particular friend or comedian. Ditto on men jokes, especially considering that female patrons will make a b-line for female coworkers--I'm a librarian, not construction worker, which means it's also a good bet I'm gay but I must still be avoided. The Left, in general, needs to confront its bigotry but I kinda suspect that won't happen and we'll end up with MAPA (Make America Progressive Again). It's going to be a very unfunny decade as this shit works itself out.

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a couple points... first, the website Stuff White People Like had nothing to do with making fun of white people per se - it was about making fun of elitist liberals. The site would sometimes refer to "the wrong type of white person" (meaning not "progressive") just to make it clear.

second, as a Jew, I'm glad you recognized that antisemitism is a real thing. it's all over the place, usually disguised with or blended in with supposed criticism of Israel. it's gotten so much worse lately. it's pushed me much more to the right - I vote GOP now instead of Democrat mainly for that reason, and many other Jews do too.

finally, I just wanted to comment on that cartoon... I actually do think that the cartoon character commenting about Israel killing thousands of Palestinian children is indeed being antisemitic! this may surprise you, it may not, but yes, I do think that's a comment that has echoes of the blood libel and completely ignores the context in which those children were killed (we were fighting Nazis who wanted to commit genocide against us and they hid behind the children).

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